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Summer Event Update!
As we enter into the home stretch of our Summer Festivities event, we have an important event update to announce!

The end of the event will be extended by 24 hours!
As of this post, the event timer will be updated to reflect this change. 

Due to some staff work schedules shifting for this coming weekend, the end of the event will need to be extended in order to ensure that our main backend dev is able to be online during the final moments of the event where the site processes all final scores and awards. While not initially planned for, we hope that this extra time will give everyone a last minute opportunity to keep working on their scores and tier placements!
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QUICK EVENT END INFORMATION
  • When the event timer hits "0 seconds left to help!", the event will close and automatically shift into processing all scores and reward data. It should take approximately 1 minute for everything to process, after which you may visit the event page to view your rewards!
  • All successfully unlocked overtime rewards will be automatically added onto your event rewards - everyone who participated in the event will receive these overtime items!
  • In order to update the site with new content associated with the ending of the event, we'll need to have a short maintenance downtime period at 12:30am DV time on September 6th (~30 minutes after the event ends). This should be quick, lasting approximately 15-20 minutes or less!
  • As a reminder to everyone, the Shimmering Embers event items will extinguish at the end of the event! Be sure to use them up for some easy Item Alchemy rewards, if you'd like, before they're wiped from player inventories.
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Incredible community effort thus far on our
first major sitewide event since launch!

Comments

  • Villager Scorpi (#45548) 3 Sep 2020, 9:14 am
    The issue was that the staff didn't state 'there is literally nothing you can do with them' or respond to users when they asked about it. Nobody is bashing on 'people who just test things out rather than waiting' but I'm sure that if there was an ember shop or a special use for them revealed near the end of the event, then some of the people who had already alchemized all their embers would have been upset. All people are asking for is better communication to prevent uncertainties like this in the future.
  • Villager Mochi_Opossum (#38302) 3 Sep 2020, 12:06 pm
    The main argument I see is "What if there was a hidden event afterward that required the embers!", The issue with that is that it's based on a hypothetical scenario that didn't even happen during the event and forces the staff to appear in a negative light despite it not having happened?
    If that scenario happened, then yes - These claims would have a foundation, and people absolutely would have the right to be upset and angry, but it's just based on "what ifs" than anything else; just feels like people trying to yell at the staff for something that wasn't going to happen in the first place
    The staff absolutely have faults and are yet to answer to many community questions/demands - but this is? users getting upset over a scenario that didn't even happen

    I have been on DV for about 2-3~ months, so maybe this has happened in the past that I'm unaware of, but as far as I've read no one has mentioned that in any prior comments or criticism
  • Villager Fairypaw (#40137) 3 Sep 2020, 12:13 pm
    Villager VEE (#675)

    I understand your feedback, that people were saving embers in case there was something magically going to pop up at the end that they could spend those embers on. I even saved a couple for this case (though admittedly alched most). If the user base trusted DV this wouldn't have been an issue, so this can go both ways since trust is a 2-way path.

    DV gave us embers, and told us that they would disappear after the event. How could they have known that users would later come up with random ideas (like ember stores, etc.) from nowhere? They could have quelled these worries earlier if they had seen specific forum threads, but is it DV's responsibility to monitor the players' imaginations, and clarify things for every idea they come up with? If the user base had trusted what they originally said, this wouldn't have been an issue.

    At the same time I agree/understand that DV hasn't given us much reason to trust them, considering the beginning of the summer event, where everyone was worried about the points being available for tasks.
    My original comment wasn't well phrased since I wasn't expecting to elaborate but I personally (and this is just a personal opinion) believe that it is not DV's responsibility to respond to every idea the community has, which is what I meant by "spoon-feeding", though if that term was too offensive for you, just ignore it.

    In response to: "why is it that those defending dv feel the need to put down others for being critical." For me, I don't ever feel like I tried to put anyone down through my comments (though if you find me offensive when my intent wasn't then sorry I guess?). But I do feel like, on this topic, my ideas are invalidated. I see a lot more "I understand, but..." coming from this side than the other side, so it doesn't feel like anyone is listening to what I might have to say, which might be a reason why people on this side are more radical. This is not to excuse anyone from rude behavior, but it is something to keep in mind.

    Sorry if I offended anyone. I never try to offend anyone, but if I do anyway, then take an apology.
  • Villager Fairypaw (#40137) 3 Sep 2020, 12:18 pm
    TLDR for my previous comment: Mochi_Opossum's comment
  • Villager Bangrull (#33742) 3 Sep 2020, 12:22 pm
    Nah, what was confusing to me about the first statement that the embers would expire after the event, was because I wasn't sure whether the event was JUST the time period of the part where we did all the hassling tasks, or if the event also in that part of the text referred to the duration of the following quest that was being unlocked as part of the event, so I wasn't sure exactly if the embers were intended to be part of the quest that was gonna be unlocked or not.
  • Villager Astraleaf (#17183) 3 Sep 2020, 12:30 pm
    Great job everyone on completing the final stretch goal! 100%!

    I'm just glad they told us about the Item Alchemy thing before the event ended. We all have plenty of time to get rid of our embers now. I went from 200+ to 10 that way.

    It's the first event, we don't really know anything, and that's the FUN of it!
  • Villager Scorpi (#45548) 3 Sep 2020, 12:46 pm
    Mochi_Opossum (#38302)
    Similarly, that can be said about the larger point tasks for Lilia's Quests and Hatching A Pet - users were also anxious at first because it was unknown whether these tasks would grant as many points as they did, and given how little the prior tasks awarded, the uncertainty caused many users to lose out on sleep. "What if the tasks continued to award a similar amount of points making elite tier impossible without under-sleeping" is also a hypothetical situation that did not happen, but understandably caused considerable amounts of stress in the player-base. Many players expressed their worries on the news post or forums but did not receive reassurance until the bigger tasks themselves were released which made some players feel frustrated in the meantime.

    While the embers are not as big of a deal, there was still hesitation to alchemize them because of the uncertainty on how the event would end/whether there would be updates to their use. This wasn't just out of nowhere like "Hey, what if the staff suddenly decides that only the top 10% of users reaches elite tier?", but based on how many excess embers there were, the 'gradual release of information' style of the event, the mystery of what the final seasonal quest would be, etc. Likewise, questions were asked and left unanswered again.

    Most of the feedback right now is aimed towards staff communication, simply requesting confirmation in situations like this in the future. I'm not sure what there would have been to lose if a staff member had confirmed: "Hey, the embers won't have any other use - feel free to do with them what you will".

    Like others have already said multiple times, this feedback isn't blind rage meant to 'yell at the staff' or make them feel bad. (Also not trying to target you or anything, just thought your points overlapped with some of mine ^^")
  • Villager Scorpi (#45548) 3 Sep 2020, 1:19 pm
    I'm also sorry if any of my comments have come across as cold or harsh - fully recognize and understand that others may think the embers having another use would have been unlikely and/or DV not being responsible to responding to these questions! I want to be respectful so I apologize if I hurt anyone in any way, including staff. However, some of the posts laughing at or demeaning the users giving this feedback did not sit well with me which is why I've been increasingly vocal here.
  • Villager VEE (#675) 3 Sep 2020, 1:26 pm
    dunno how many times this needs to be said, but criticism and feedback do not equate to yelling, blaming, or complaining. they also do not equal trying to paint staff in bad light. i find it very disrespectful that some users continue to claim they do. literally nobody is yelling at staff lol. if more than one person feels the same way about something, its obviously not just an individual thing. perhaps to some users it seems like our concerns were baseless and hypothetical but that just isnt true. like others have mentioned, innocent mistakes like alching your quickened turnipling are punished here. this creates a feeling of fear in some people to alchemize certain things. dv is not clear with communication. this event is not the first time there have been issues in transparency. what is the harm in giving our feedback that we would like more communication? its great that some users dont feel that way. but a lot of us do, and i have not seen a single person with that viewpoint that has been disrespectful to staff in their feedback. nobody said dv has a responsibility to do anything... were just sharing what we would have preferred to have happened. and im sorry if anyone feels like im not respecting their viewpoint because i do. everyone should be able to share how they feel and what their experience has been. im really happy for those that have been enjoying this event to the fullest, i just dont share the same experience and have the right to talk about it.
  • Villager Cruellinnet (#19209) 3 Sep 2020, 1:47 pm
    Staff continues to hide everything in the shadows and refuses to communicate with users.


    Yeah.


    nothing's changed since beta.

    I'm honestly surprised they didn't add a ember only alchemy recipe.

    yes I KNOW that it says that they'll disappear at the end of the event.
    But...adding an exclusive recipe using the embers during the event that you can't get again until next year when the embers come back isn't mutually exclusive with that.
  • Villager Dreamsofcrows (#31307) 3 Sep 2020, 2:21 pm
    30 points away from elite. Thank you to staff (artists and coders) who helped put the event together. For a first event on a new pet adoption website it was good. Hopefully we'll see some winter and or spring events in the coming months/year while the staff works on improving on and adding to Dappervolk (which is really still in its live infancy).
    Congratulations everyone for helping get Overtime Goals 1, 2 and 3 100% compete!
  • Villager Valen (#36144) 3 Sep 2020, 3:46 pm
    Because this event contained some secrecy it was an absolute valid user concern about whether or not to alchemize embers.

    That aside...

    The two main issues for me around this event were:

    1) Lack of staff communication and transparency.
    2) Timer frequencies.

    I prefer a model where you have 24hrs to complete all daily tasks. This accommodates all schedules.
  • Moderator Musicality (#39022) 3 Sep 2020, 4:34 pm
    IDK if this is a stupid question, but since we reached tier 3 of overtime that means we still get the items and potatoes from the tiers below that right? Because with the elite tier you only get what is on that tier- things don't add up from the tiers below that.

    Also, since we've gotten all the overtime goals and I've already made elite is there any point to still doing the tasks?
  • Villager Irlaan (#39668) 3 Sep 2020, 4:37 pm
    Musicality (#39022)

    Not a stupid question at all, given how unclear things have been.

    We will get all of the rewards from Overtime, not just those in the final goal. And there is no point in continuing to do the tasks once you have hit Elite.
  • Villager Weet (#1914) 3 Sep 2020, 7:39 pm
    A small message regarding the feedback given by Tom_Suke (#1426):

    We would like to apologize for the delay in response as to why your original comment was deleted. We did not have the intention of silencing or deleting anyone's thoughts or feedback - for that we once again apologize!

    Thank you again for your patience and understanding.


    Jr. Mod Weet
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