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A Final Bewitchery...

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In the thicket of battle, the stranger's red energy begins to swirl with a life of its own. It's being harnessed by forces unknown, hiding amongst the legions of world-hoppers defending their respective witches.

Dopplegangers? Wizards? A mystery until their sudden disappearance, along with their influence. The Witches War rages on.

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Recently, we discovered a few instances of rule breaking which skewed the points in the Witches War. This was too significant to ignore, so after extensive investigation and some deliberation, we've decided to do the following.

44,283 points will be removed from Team Glume on December 10th, 4AM DVT

The Witches War event has been extended to:
Sunday December 11th, 8PM DVT
This will give all teams a final fighting chance at victory.

  • After rollover tonight, the bonus point gain will be reduced to just 1%, effectively giving the teams a relatively even battlefield for the final showdown.
  • We're hoping that these updates make the best of a difficult and unique situation, and we'll also be looking into ways to safeguard against this for other events of this type in the future.

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  • A 15 minute maintenance will occur on December 12th 12AM DVT - 4 hours after the team battle ends - to conclude the storyline.
  • The Stranger's Wares shop stock will be moved to a new place, with the seasonal summer clothing continuing to be available for purchase there until December 16th.
  • Complete the "Traversing the Warring Forest" quest for 14 days in total in order to unlock more content after maintenance!

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We'd like to ask that in the future, if anyone sees possible examples of rule breaking, to please report it through the ticket desk only and refrain from discussing it publicly on site or in our Discord Server. This kind of action can unintentionally lead to witch hunts and harassment, which are against our Rules of Conduct and harmful overall to the community. Rule breaking should not be grounds to be harassed by other users, allow us to be the mediator. Thank you very much!

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Thank you for playing and supporting Dappervolk, we'll be back with event conclusions. May the strongest witch win!

Comments


  • Villager FumiLEX (#3423) 11 Dec 2022, 1:20 pm
    Staff probably needs to address this in another post or something since the way they did things is confusing people. They didn't actually take away ALL of the illegitimate points earned by the cheaters on team glume, otherwise the number would have been closer to 70k. If I'm understanding correctly from a recent staff response in the forums, they subtracted the amount earned on other teams from the total they ended up taking away from glume's.

    I can't claim to know why they didn't just reduce all points earned from those duels from the three teams raw, but it's possible the situation is more nuanced than it appears from the outside. If they had done so, maybe it would've put glume's team in a much larger disadvantage than the one they got here, and the amount they gave us was adjusted to be more equal to help everyone have a fighting chance with the event extension.

    I think a little more communication and insight from them could help for sure.
  • Villager Irlaan (#39668) 11 Dec 2022, 1:19 pm
    Astraleaf (#17183)

    lone explained it above your post, but the points removed from Glume is not the sum that was earned through cheating. If it had been, over 70k points would have been removed in total. One of the many bots that were cheating for Glume had over 7k wins (7,164 was what I saw a day or so ago and given they were only recently banned, it was likely much higher), let alone the other four that were actively dueling for wins for her.
  • Villager Astraleaf (#17183) 11 Dec 2022, 12:12 pm
    I timidly agree with Alice and Lady Ana... 44,283 points means approx. 4428.3 fraudulent battles; that number multiplied by 3 points per loss is where Alice got the 13284.9 extra points for Barclay and Mycel teams combined. Assuming an even split, something like 6642.45 points should've been removed from the other teams.

    Why weren't the cheating points gained by Barclay and Mycel teams removed, too? If you know exactly how many Glume points to remove from fraudulent battles, then you know exactly how many Barclay and Mycel points to remove from those very same battles.

    The difference between Barclay and Glume was, like 1000 or 2000 points after 44,283 points removal... it's bigger now 'cos so many on Glume team have lost heart, but we might've had a path to 2nd place at least if you'd fairly removed ALL points gained from cheating, not just those gained by Team Glume.
  • Villager lone (#56) 11 Dec 2022, 12:11 pm
    To anyone confused why the other teams weren't deducted to put it more into perspective, the cheater(s) on glume's team earned near 70k+ points by cheating, they had over 7000 wins. That would mean at 3 points a loss for the other teams (assuming losses were split evenly between the teams) they'd both have about 23k or so points earned in losses - that's why only 44k was removed from team Glume, meaning ALL teams earned around 23k~26k from the cheating. It's as even as it can be given the situation.
  • Villager LadyAnarchy (#17271) 11 Dec 2022, 11:57 am
    Alice1999 (#28293): A friend just pointed this out to me as well! Yes, it's fair that Glume's cheating points were taken away, but what about the points to the other teams? There's nothing fair about letting them keep the points they got from the fraudulent duels, even if it is a lot less than the points Glume lost.
  • Villager Alice1999 (#28293) 11 Dec 2022, 7:50 am
    just saying this still means the other teams could have gotten 13284.9 points in extra due to the three points you get from losing- I understand why the points were taken away from glume but the extra mentioned above is enough to make it an even playing field again which it likely was before the cheaters were around!
  • Villager Rinaminori (#2512) 11 Dec 2022, 7:05 am
    Luminate (#3459) Staff actually just confirmed today on the thread "-along with some event related changes" that the loss points were deducted from the total illegitimate win points! This is as fair as it can be.
  • Villager Luminate (#3459) 11 Dec 2022, 6:38 am
    that said I don't actually know how many points came from cheating and for all I know, the points gained by other teams were taken into account but just deducted from the amount that was gonna be taken away from Glume, rather than directly taken from the others. though if that's the case it'd probably still be helpful to know so it doesn't end up looking like only team Glume lost points
  • Villager Luminate (#3459) 11 Dec 2022, 6:35 am
    aw that's a shame, I suppose ultimately not a big deal to me since I don't play much outside of events and the 10kp extra wouldn't have been of much use to me personally anyway but still :/

    seeing what others are saying too, bit sad how this ended up being handled? with only the Glume team losing points when a fraudulent duel still nets 3 points to the loser iirc? I don't know how easy or hard it would have been to calculate the points gained by the other two teams, or if it would even have made a difference, but eh. Just seems a bit like a crude bandaid put on the situation because I guess there wasn't enough time for a more fair and in-depth solution?
  • Villager BoyHowdy (#13352) 11 Dec 2022, 6:09 am
    while i of course don't agree with cheating (and this was a really weird event to decide to cheat in, since the winning team prize payout only gets you an extra 10kp??) it's a real bummer that the actions of a few resulted in the punishment of the entire team, especially when it left us with no possible chance of recouping enough points to ever get in first place again. hopefully if something like this happens in the future, it will be dealt with promptly, instead of left to run wild until the very last day of the event, and just the cheaters will be punished rather than the entire team they were automatically assigned to. i also agree that it's highly unlikely that the ONLY people doing this were on glume's team... but that's neither here or there now since mycel is going to win regardless :')
  • Villager Kayu (#13374) 11 Dec 2022, 2:14 am
    This is severely foul to punish an entire team. I think this was a setup for failure honestly, it's fishy you only did this on the last day of the event instead of when it actually happened. With how many people on glume's side I know there have to have been more points than just the cheaters taken away.
  • Villager SireMeowMeowz (#69564) 10 Dec 2022, 11:05 pm
    it is a little sucky there probaly are others on teams doing this as sometimes its hard to track
  • Villager mothylaced (#43865) 10 Dec 2022, 7:35 pm
    ^^ im pretty sure all the points that were deducted were from those specific accounts, which an overwhelming majority may have been on team glume. yes, maybe there's others in other teams, yet for now all teams have an actual equal chance of winning now, i hope everyone won't be disheartened and will try to enjoy the extension of the event :(
  • Villager Aeroden (#7454) 10 Dec 2022, 6:58 pm
    I'm on the salt train with my fellow teammates who were forced onto Team Glume :/
    I get why this needed to be dealt with but still feels like collective punishment.
  • Villager Aphrodite (#647) 10 Dec 2022, 6:54 pm
    :o
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