Oof, I'm seeing some aspects of sealioning and more in the recent discussion...

However - regardless of that there were valid arguments on both sides as usual.
I'm certainly not trying to get into the discussion here though, or I would've started one with my last comment :')

I just want to suggest the problem is not if the site is responsible or the parents & certainly we are not in a position to discuss how gambling & similar things could be handled better on a giant scale, haaha...

I just want to remind you what the staff is trying to do by implementing a mechanic like this - yes, trying to make money, which is absolutely okay. But in what kind of way, is the problem. You can make money differently.

By implementing chance, you hope & RELY on people 'falling' for it. They don't implement this mechanic hoping no one will do so.
And this is why it is indeed predatory & in particular predatory to groups having issues with this kind of thing - whoever does not have issues, won't be the ones spending their money this way.

Again: Yes, people who fall for this are the unlucky bunch & responsible for themselves (or their parents are responsible, it doesn't matter). The problem with this is not about who is responsible.

This is about: I, personally, as well as many others don't want to & hopefully will not put money to people who try to prey on those groups who are susceptible to falling for this. Who try to make money off exactly those people who are prone to falling for it.

Yes, there is a bundle you can buy - which is way more expensive by piece value & imho the piece value is already high in the gacha, but that's entirely subjective to be fair.
What now happens is some people recognize "okay, but I want all pieces anyway & I'll pay more for the safe & easy way to aquire those". Those will be the people who have the amount of insight as well as the amount of disposable income.
That's fine.

Then there are people who don't have the mindset to be really aware of this, some who are only somewhat aware but since being prone to try chance, they will go the gacha way anyway.
In addition to that people with a too small income to afford the bundle but loving it & thus using the gacha having high hopes to get every piece spending less money or only wanting one or two pieces & taking the chance, hoping they get exactly those.

Then they don't/ppl of the above group get duplicates & you often do not even realise how easily you have tried more often than is profitable or affordable for you & still get unlucky.

Then there's the very common "completionist" feeling that comes up halfway in this process & you will think "well now I have every piece but one, I gotta get this last one as well".
At least this is what I now from my own experience, luckily only without RLC.
And if it takes another 10 spins than so be it, at least then you can chose the missing piece. Yay.

As many have said: A whole lot of apps & online games & whatnot use those methods.
I personally don't give them money. But no, I don't complain to them.

I think this is because we're very well used to the fact, that big companies are a**holes milking everyone they can for money, with no regards to the people. There are no "people" for companies, there are money-spenders. That's all.
For me the reason to speak up here, is that from a cute petsite catering to a relatively really small corner of the internet, from people I hope are enthusiastic about their own work here themselves, I hoped to get something more trustworthy...